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Please add a full summary for all the images you have uploaded, and will upload in the future. If you do not know how to make one, simply go to another image, press edit (but don't save), and alter the summary there to rightly describe your image. Please let me or another Administrator know if you need any further assistance! Diamonddeath (talk) 08:19, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Righto then. Sorry for the inconvenience.Wikification (talk) 09:27, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Wendy Naugus

So, are you suggesting that if, hypothetically, they put a character named Witchcart into the Archie comic alongside Wendy Naugus (without the plot device of additional relatives or alternate selves/realities in play), they would be so different that them existing side-by-side wouldn't be awkward at all? Witchcart had no defining characteristics other than being a VERY generic witch (and possibly just being a crazy old lady, but that's never officially confirmed or denied). Wendy may be a different species (maybe. the game never explicitly stated Witchcart was human, though it would be natural to assume that) but she still resembles Witchcart in every way that counts and fulfills the same exact role (literally, as the game's plot is canon to the comics) to the point that saying they should be considered seperate characters is, quite frankly, splitting hairs to the point of ridiculousness. Patrick666 (talk) 11:08, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Look, I didn't make a fuss when you changed my first edit under "Background Information", I just wanted to highlight another possibility around the restrictions. Anyway, I don't feel like going on about this. I tried to make compromise with my last edit on that article, but since you're still not satisfied I'll remove my edits on the page. Don't think I'll be doing that every time though. Wikification (talk) 12:11, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I'm sorry I blew up like that. It was very unprofessional of me. Though I stand by what I've said. But I promise to try to be more even tempered and professional in the future and not throw stupid tantrums like that. Honestly, I'm embarassed. Patrick666 (talk) 14:13, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

...Yeah, that's alright :). I dealt with things like this in the past. Although I'd like to put my edits of an alternate possibility back on the article, I'll continue to leave them off to avoid anymore conflict. Wikification (talk) 02:06, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

So... I went ahead and put that alternate possibility thing back into the background section (slightly reworded). I've had long enought to mull it over, and I realise that I was in the wrong and I was being unreasonable. Again, I'm sorry for acting like such a jerk. Patrick666 (talk) 20:18, February 16, 2016 (UTC)


Why did you move pages to titles such as "Walter Naugus (Pre-SGW)" and "Ixis Naugus (Post-SGW)"? That wasn't really need at all... :/ ★ WindStar7125 Talk Contribs 17:16, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

I know. X(

I thought I could fix things using redirects and renaming pages, but as you saw it just became one big cluster. I'm sorry about that. Just trying to help and failed. I'll let you handle things. Wikification (talk) 17:27, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, don't worry, I'm not mad, I was just a bit confused there ^^ Here, I'm asking an admin to try to fix it a bit. I added a new feature to the Parent Tab template, and I'll show you how to use it once things settle down first. :P ★ WindStar7125 Talk Contribs 17:30, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

re: Missed one?

Lol oh boy. I did miss that one. Thanks! I guess I'll use it as an example. :P
Okay. So I added new parameters to the Parent Tab template, called custom1 and custom2. Basically, it's for using the Parent Tab to link two different pages together, rather than just "Page" and "Page/Pre-SGW", it'll link together "Page" and "Page". If that makes sense, lol.
Basically, let's say there are two pages that have roughly the same subject, but different names Pre-Super Genesis Wave and Post-Super Genesis Wave (Like Sonic's World and Mobius). Since "Sonic's World" is the Post-SGW article, use "|custom2=Mobius" in the Parent Tab template to customize the link for the second tab (which links to the "Pre-SGW" article). "Mobius" is the Pre-SGW article, so use "|custom1=Sonic's World" to customize the link for the first tab (which links to the "Post-SGW" article). With this, we'll no longer have to use redirects to make the tabs work. ^^
For pages with infoboxes, like Walter Naugus and Ixis Naugus, simply use "|custom2=Ixis Naugus" inside the infobox on Walter's page, and "|custom1=Walter Naugus" in the infobox on Ixis' page. It's also important to never use the custom1 and custom2 parameters on the same page. ^^ I'll use King Acorn as an example to show you. :P WindStar7125 01:07, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Alright then. But just so it's clear, we can still use the original method (as in name/Pre-SGW) for characters, groups, etc, that have the same names in both timelines (example: Sonic the Hedgehog for the new world and Sonic the Hedgehog/Pre-SGW for the old world) right, or do you have something else in mind of that? Wikification (talk) 01:56, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that won't change. :) We'll still use that method. WindStar7125 02:00, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Article Merge/Tabbing Request

Hey, major kudos for all the work you've been doing lately! Would you consider merging the Egg Army and Dark Egg Legion pages and giving them the same treatment? We feel they should've been considered one and the same to begin with and we dunno how they ended up as separate pages. Thanks! TheFatPanda (talk) 20:41, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

It appears WildStar7125 has already done that for you. Sorry I didn't respond to you sooner. Wikification (talk) 23:38, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

All that Editing

Wow, thanks for all the help with editing those articles. As a result, I am promoting you to Admin :D I still don't understand how to do it, though. Can you show me? Diamonddeath (talk) 18:13, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Congrats on getting admin rights man ^^ I really think you deserve it :D WindStar7125 18:48, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

You both got them, so congrats to the both of you, and thanks so much for all your hard work! Diamonddeath (talk) 18:48, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both very much for the kind words, and congrats to WindStar7125 for becoming one one too, he's really helped out here. But although I really appreciate being made admin, I didn't really want to become one myself. Let's just say that there are some responsibilities to being an admin I probably won't live up to in the future. Of course I will still continue to make edits and contributions here, though I'd prefer to do it as a user than an admin, despite the benefits. Wikification (talk) 03:53, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

Well, after giving it some more thought, I've decided to remain as an admin for now. I'd probably be contributing to the articles mostly, but I might sort some problems out on here if they happen to surface, and when I get the time. Wikification (talk) 14:12, April 3, 2016 (UTC)
I see. Good to hear! If you ever want to become a different user level, just let me know, but I think you're able to do it yourself now if I'm not mistaken. Diamonddeath (talk) 18:50, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Split Article Titles

I'll post this here because no one seems to be checking the forum:

The major reason I want to rename it is because I want the articles to be understandable for new readers/fans. A new reader/fan joining the book after the reboot won't know what "Post-SGW" and "Pre-SGW" mean, regardless if they know there was a reboot. Even if it used the full title of "Post-Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre-Super Genesis Wave", a new reader/fan might not know what those are or what they even mean. So, I thought it would be way easier to understand for new readers/fans if the split articles were given titles that helped to better define what they actually are. Some ideas for titles that are self explanatory and not confusing for "Post-SGW" are "Current Timeline", "New Timeline", and "Current" and for "Pre-SGW" are "Previous Timeline", "Old Timeline", "Original Timeline", and "Pre-Reboot".

So, basically, I want the titles to be user friendly to new fans/readers. As an informative online encyclopedia, we should try to be as easy to understand as possible, especially for something first seen in the article such as an article title. which shouldn't be using acronyms in the first place. I don't want to turn people off with confusion. Diamonddeath (talk) 18:52, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not against this idea (even although I prefer it as it currently is). However, it's possible that there might be a lot of editing involved if we did change it, as many old continuity pages already have /Pre-SGW in their titles and that might lead to some confusion as to making the template do what you want it to do, Unless WildStar can come up with something. (Edit: Scratch that, after looking at it again, it should be very easy to change the name without any complications. :))
Also, as for tag names, I suggest calling the new timeline "Current" or "Current Timeline" and the old timeline "Original" or "Original Timeline". Wikification (talk) 20:22, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

re: image problem

Fixed. Simply insert __NOCATEGORYGALLERY__ in category pages that have that problem. WindStar7125 18:28, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll start doing that to category pages if start looking too funny :). Wikification (talk) 18:33, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Tab timeline articles

Just a thought, wouldn't it make more sense to put the two timeline articles under tabs? TheFatPanda (talk) 22:19, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Good thinking. WildStar's already done it. Wikification (talk) 22:26, April 17, 2016 (UTC)
Lol, "WildStar" ^^ WindStar7125 22:33, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Oops, sorry...WandStar ;). Wikification (talk) 22:47, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Help with categories

Hey, if you haven't noticed I've recently been going around adding some new categories to issue pages: the months they were released. This is for use with the new "In this month..." feature on the front page. If you don't mind, would you help me pick up the slack on these? I've already added the catergories to everything except the Sonic X issues and every Sonic issue after issue 60. It'd be a great help! TheFatPanda (talk) 23:36, April 19, 2016 (UTC)

  • I would, but I don't know the months each comic were released in. I'll see if I can find out and then aid you in this. Wikification (talk) 09:56, April 20, 2016 (UTC)
Oh you don't need to do all of them, just evening out the sheer bulk is fine. Thanks, I'll handle any you may have missed ^^ TheFatPanda (talk) 15:39, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Genesis Wave article

Hey, could you split Genesis Wave into two articles please? Thanks! TheFatPanda (talk) 01:22, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Captain Metal

How do you suppose we should handle Captain Metal's article? TheFatPanda (talk) 03:01, April 29, 2016 (UTC)

Probably the same way as the Mecha Sally article. We already have dual pages for Metal Sonic. Edit: Now that we have a dual reality icon, I guess we can use it on the article, even though the character appears more in one continuity then the other. What do you think? Wikification (talk) 03:05, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
It's hard to say since, by all accounts, his existence doesn't make sense in the context of the Super Genesis Wave. TheFatPanda (talk) 03:35, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
Well, how about this: Captain Metal goes with the Post-SGW timeline because that is when that version of the character is introduced. However, perhaps we should delete his history as Metal Sonic V3.3 on the Captain Metal article and instead leave a link on the page leading to Pre-SGW/Metal Sonic article to show his existence as Metal Sonic V3.3 there.
As for Mecha Sally (might as well), she goes with the Pre-SGW timeline because she only as a memory or a vision in the Post-SGW timeline. If we label her as duel, it would sort of mean that all memories that the Post-SGW Freedom Fighters have about the Pre-SGW timeline would also be duel. Wikification (talk) 04:29, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
Sure lets go with that =P TheFatPanda (talk) 22:23, April 30, 2016 (UTC)
Alright then. Wikification (talk) 05:06, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Reaquested page splits

Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I just wanted to direct your attention to these three pages that I believe could do with being split:

Thanks again! TheFatPanda (talk) 23:53, April 30, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the first two, but I have split the Zone article. Wikification (talk) 10:30, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! But why can't you do the other two? TheFatPanda (talk) 21:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
Well, if I split a very short article, both articles will hardly have any content. Also, in my opinion, I don't see much point in splitting the first two articles in the first place. Perhaps I can link you to some instructions so can split articles yourself, and then you can do what you want with them. Wikification (talk) 22:53, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
Right, that would prolly be good, yeah. TheFatPanda (talk) 22:57, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
Here you go. Hope it's not to confusing. Just view the Steps. Edit: Actually, I think I'll write some easier instructions, I'll post them when they're ready. Wikification (talk) 23:07, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

To split pages with a infobox template (articles with {{Mobian}} or {{Human}} in them), just create a new page with the same name of the page you're trying to split, except with /Pre-SGW written on the end, then move all the Old Continuity information onto your /Pre-SGW page.

However, if the article has a different name in the Old Continuity then in the New Continuity (Like how Snively Robotnik's name was change to Dr. Julian Snively after the Super Genesis Wave), create a new page and name it after the Old Continuity's name, then after moving all the old reality info onto the page, write in the infobox template |custom1= and the name for the New Continuity article. This also has to be done with the New Continuity page, except write |custom2= and the name of the Old Continuity article.

As for articles that don't have a infobox template in them, just copy and paste this at the top of the page, just under the {{Icons}} thing:

{{Parent Tab Template |backcolor=#0F1C8A |activeborder=#5260E0 |bordercolor=transparent |textcolor=white |alttextcolor=#5260E0 |height=2.2 |maxwidth=20 |tab1=Current Continuity |tab2=Pre-SGW |title2=Original Continuity}}

I think you can still use the "different article names" method with this as well. Wikification (talk) 01:55, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

New Template to make things easier

Hey again! I realised constantly coming to you and pointing out articles that need splitting was becoming rather tiresome. Sooooo...I created a new template to help you along: {{Split}} I'll go through and put this on as many unsplit pages as I can find. I hope it helps you out some :) TheFatPanda (talk) 22:07, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Okay lol. I'll see what I can do with the pages labeled with the template. Not sure I'll be doing them all though. Wikification (talk) 22:42, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
I was never expecting you to do them all at once, lol. Just so you have a list of pages you can tackle at your own pace ^^ TheFatPanda (talk) 22:44, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Question about some articles

There are articles for certain concepts that existed in both timelines. Except, in the case of the Pre-SGW timeline, they were only said to exist via brief mentions in the Encyclopedia. How should we approach these? Splitting them up would seem excessive since the Pre-SGW parts would each consist of, more or less, a single sentance. TheFatPanda (talk) 02:46, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Don't known. I think I've asked this same question to someone else here before. I guess we can either keep the info in tabs, split the pages anyway (which I think I was told to do), or make a mention of it in a single article with no tabs. Up to you really. Wikification (talk) 07:53, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Team Fighters/Team Freedom Dimensions

I am not coming here to fighting - I just come here to confirming something. Team Freedom and Team Fighters are never being in the Post-Super Genesis Wave, therefore they couldn't possessing the category Duel "Reality" characters... I checked that category, which showed the group of people and stuffs that appeared in Pre-SGW, also surviving the Post-SGW. But the problem is, Team Freedom and Team Fighters do not show up in Post-Super Genesis Wave Timeline because of that reason. May you mind explain why you think they (Freedom/Fighters) should have that category in the first place? Thank you, FredCat 01:04, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

The reason I change them was because the category was referring to characters, not the teams themselfs. Teams Freedom and Fighters are already referred of being from the Pre-Super Genesis Wave Timeline by being in the "Pre-Super Genesis Wave articles" category. I think we used to have a category for groups and organizations from the Pre-SGW timeline, but it doesn't seem to be here anymore, and don't think they should go in the "Organizations removed by the Super Genesis Wave" category since the entire concept of the teams wasn't fully erased by the Super Genesis Wave (as they both now live on as Sub-teams of the Knothole Freedom Fighters). Wikification (talk) 04:26, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
I see... "characters"? That's a big problem for me to get wrapping up. Thanks for responding. FredCat 10:01, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
I'm just being specific. You can always undo the edit if you're not satisfied. Wikification (talk) 10:25, May 7, 2016 (UTC)
To be truthfully, I was simply confused on the difference. And you cleaned it out. So thank you. :-) FredCat 10:40, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

Heavy and Bomb

I was actually thinking of merging the Heavy and Bomb articles similar to the Orbot and Cubot articles. What do you think? Diamonddeath (talk) 02:05, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

You can if you wish. I think it depends on how many adventures Heavy and Bomb have had together. If they've had solo adventures away from one another a lot, then the articles are probably better separated. Wikification (talk) 02:42, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Summaries for Images

Don't forget to add the summary information for the images you uploaded. I'm not sure if you did yet or not, but I remember seeing no summaries for the Deadly Six profile images. Diamonddeath (talk) 02:00, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

I haven't forgotten about the summaries and I intend to add them soon. I've actually been preparing to upload quite a few new pictures to the wiki, so I probably add them then. As for the Deadly Six pics, the reason I didn't add summaries to those is because I got those images from concept art and not from an issue, so I didn't know what to write in the summaries. Wikification (talk) 02:15, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

re: X

Most definitely. I don't intend on doing what I did today in terms of cleaning stuff up again. WindStar7125 00:41, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Don't Delete Images if Avoidable

Don't delete images if they can be reused. For example, if you replace the profile image of Scratch, see if you can use the previous image in the article like in the Appearance section. Diamonddeath (talk) 16:38, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Just thought the new image showed a bit more of the character. I've posted the old one under appearance since it does give a better look of Scratch standing up straight-ish. Wikification (talk) 01:37, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Sally's ears color?

The back of Sally's ears are colored brown instead of red - Wasn't that naturally for Sally's ears to be brown on the outside and tan inside? And if we went for the shaded color, it's dark brown. I am little confused of why that's an error. -FredCat 20:19, May 25, 2016 (UTC)

Also explain this? -FredCat 20:31, May 25, 2016 (UTC)
On Sally's Post-SGW design, the coloration on the back of her ears is red and connects with her red hair (like the red stripe that runs down her back). In StH #281, there's one page that shows the back of Sally's head with the back of her ears colored the usual light brown instead of red. It's a small error in detail, but I just wanted to point it out. Here are designs for Sally new appearance. At the bottom shows a behind view of her finalized design that was carried into the comics. Wikification (talk) 05:58, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
Interesting... there were only two mistakes - as I pointed out on my second comment that they let the "brown ears" slid in the comic so far. Thanks for responding. -FredCat 10:40, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Edit Undoing

I am seeing the reason why you reverted the edits on Sally's mother and Rotor's father articles, is because they have different names, right? (Though Sally's mother in New Continuous didn't given the... official full name at that point, as it was mentioned that she could be Nicole Acorn, or she had different name through the different reasons.) FredCat 11:07, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

I reverted them because Sally's Mother, Rotor's Mother and Tundra the Walrus are currently considered to be completely new characters made exclusively to the Post-SGW timeline, and not characters from the Pre-SGW timeline that have been reworked to fit the new reality (like King Acorn for example). The new Post-SGW characters simply took the roles of being Sally and Rotor's parents in the new timeline since the Pre-SGW characters can't be used anymore. Their status as parents of particular characters doesn't mean their articles should be linked together though, as some people new to the comics might think that they're reworked versions of each other and not two different characters. Wikification (talk) 11:48, June 21, 2016 (UTC)
I see, much like Sonic had his memory that went dual for few issues. The other reasons; different life, different jobs, and their "fates" (death, alive, whatever). All that you detailed out do making sense of them not "being the same" as before. And that included Dulcy's mother (in old continuous, she died, but in new continuous, she is alive) as well.
Also, Rotor's young brother was no longer around, right? It could either, he ceased to existing (erased from the life) or he died with his mother, or never being there at all (A.K.A. never born at all). FredCat 12:17, June 21, 2016 (UTC)
Like many other characters from the old continuity, I think Skeeter has been removed from the comics until further notice. The reality in the Sonic comics wasn't just rebooted, it was sort of reformatted. Only things that seem to have survived are the properties belonging to SEGA (both games and media apparently) and the creations made by those currently working on the comic series. Wikification (talk) 14:09, June 21, 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, which is the reason why I referred the current timeline as "new continuous", since it had its own storyline. Otherwise, it would'd've be "Another Time, Another Place" timeline but with several changes (Werehog appeared earlier, "Sonic the Fighter" had not happening until after Werehog event, the moon was perfectly cleaned, etc.). And we still waited on Scourge's coming back - I knew that Penders also owned Anti-Sonic, but it was mention that Scourge was entirely his own character... FredCat 14:34, June 21, 2016 (UTC)
Just trying to make a clearer distinction in regards to characters between both timelines. As for Scourge, I doubt he'll be returning in the way as we known him. Parts of his personality will probably be given to a new character who would sort of be considered as the "New Scourge". Wikification (talk) 01:40, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, which is why I came here to make sure I got them right. Shame that Thrash only showed up to taking Knuckles' people away, then vanished once the reboot occupied. FredCat 01:46, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

One Name, Two Links

I am curiously... didn't you see that Sabina Dragon was already linked in Dulcy's Infobox? FredCat 15:46, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

Not sure why people do this but from what I've seen here, one written article can have a link to another in it at least once, or much further down the article from where the first link was last shown. Regardless if it's already been linked to in the infobox. Since Sabina is a important character in Dulcy's life and there's no link to her in the article, I thought it look good to put one there. If it still bugs you, just undo it and I won't change it again. Wikification (talk) 20:59, June 28, 2016 (UTC)
Well, it's common that there is only one name that is linked, regardless where they are. FredCat 21:42, June 28, 2016 (UTC)
Infobox show this link. ~Springy Boy
That's what I meant. And that's why I went ahead and unlinked Sabina Dragon in Dulcy's article because she's already linked in Infobox as discussed before. And I am doing to do that now. FredCat 17:16, July 16, 2016 (UTC)
Okay then, just one link. The article's pretty short at the moment anyway. Wikification (talk) 20:20, July 16, 2016 (UTC)

Categories in wrong character

Uh... wasn't that Currently/New Continuous Tails, instead of Old Continuous Tails? And I don't think that "Sonic Lost World" would counted since New Continuous version was completely different from... "Another Time, Another Place" version. You know, that's just my two cents. FredCat 22:48, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Tails briefly became a villain as Tails Man in the Worlds Collide arc, which is a Dual Continuity event. Wikification (talk) 22:58, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
Ah, yes... that's right. My apologize that I missed the important part. Thanks for confirming that. FredCat 23:29, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Sally's Mother

Yeah, I can agree with your response/summary on King Acorn article, but... look back, when he asked Sonic to fetching Sally and bringing her to him. At that point he made it sound like Sally's the only family he have and left out his wife, which made it believed that she is dead. But again, when Sally mentioned about her mother, it seemed like she is alive, but it sound like she's long dead.

It's curiously that the Queen just up and left after Sally was born, never bother to give her husband some mind of why she decided to not helping him with monarch and anything. Is she gone rebellious or something? The reason why I mentioned that - it was because of Alphonse Elric, who was just a little boy when his mother died, also claimed that he had a little to no memory of her when he reunited with Van Hohenheim first time in 10 years. The death of mother was not related though, that's just the logic behind of child's memory of their parent that is related to Sally's knowledge of her mother.

That's my other two cents I had to throw in. FredCat 13:28, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

Unused Images

I was looking at the images and there are a lot that you uploaded that haven't been used, and I'm not sure where you intended to place some of them. Can you go back and assign them to articles, and/or delete them if we can't use them? Diamonddeath (talk) 05:36, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

I was trying to place some images where I thought they should be put, but I noticed a chunk are missing their descriptions. Could you please provide them? Diamonddeath (talk) 06:05, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
I've been meaning to fix some issues regarding some of the images I've uploaded. Some of the pictures I do still intending to use, but some others I wasn't able to post because of how some articles developed, or there is not enough space on a page and applying it would make the page look awkward, or due to some other problems. I guess I've left them on here for others to make use of them if they want, but I'll look to see if there are any articles in need of them and if not, I'll delete them. (I also intend to put in descriptions for images as well. I'll get to that soon.) Wikification (talk) 06:16, August 24, 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. In the future, you can reply on my talk page so that I get notified, otherwise I won't see your reply here without me looking at the newsfeed. Diamonddeath (talk) 07:20, August 24, 2016 (UTC)

Sonic Article and Game History

I'm not trying to entice people to shorten it. I'm planning on doing it myself. I just can't do it all at once. So we can leave this for now, as I'm planning on editing it heavily. Diamonddeath (talk) 21:50, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I was just a bit confused by your summary. I didn't mean upset anyone. However, Perhaps maybe you should wait to submit the finished thing rather then posting a large first draft on the article and editing it over time (that is, if you're doing it that way). Anyway, that's just my opinion. Sorry if I caused any inconvenience. Wikification (talk) 22:29, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

No problem. At first I thought it was ok, and then I realized it was indeed too long. I wanted to do it this way so that I could see how it looks as I edit it. This way I know how much room I'm taking up in comparison to the rest of the article and images. Diamonddeath (talk) 00:02, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

I think Ultrasonic9000 has a point about it being too specific. Problematic for an article that we only vaguely known the past history for (other then it being more similar to the games). Maybe you should try working on what needs to changed in a word document or something and submit it to the article when you feel it's finished.


It's quite curiously... I don't remember those "New Continuous" characters had being Robian, or known as "Mobians" officially... And yes, I understand the Super Genesis Wave parts... But that's not Robian they went through like that. That's actually "Robot Master", as what Mega Man's bosses were like. That's all I wanna say. FredCat 14:18, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

I think I see what you're saying (or I'm just sounding stupid lol), but that doesn't change the fact that they were still roboticized mobians. Even if the roboticization process was modified so that many of those characters became roboticized masters. Also, if you're talking about terms, the word "Mobian" was used for Post-SGW characters in Sonic the Hedgehog (GN) Volume 3, and the word "Robian" is what we're currently using to refer to roboticized mobians in the Post-SGW timeline until proven otherwise. Wikification (talk) 15:20, September 5, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I thought. Until Ian take the shade off the lamp light, I can look away from that little... conflict mistakes. Also, currently Eggman is no longer... "Overlander", right? FredCat 16:11, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Blog Links

Hi, I was wondering, since the ASUB links on the Jani-Ca page aren't useful anymore, shouldn't we remove them? I'm just asking, because they don't do anything to help with that page whatsoever. Thank you for your time. And thanks for the welcome message! (Julia Finitevus (talk) 17:47, October 15, 2016 (UTC))

Hello there, and I guess so. Perhaps it should be noted under background information that some the articles info came from that old blog, unless there's an alternate source for that information available. Wikification (talk) 19:32, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

Extra Categories?

Is that ok for him to put all those "Kids"/"Teenagers"/"Adults"/whatever categories in those articles? FredCat 11:13, October 19, 2016 (UTC)

I've been waiting to see what the other admin(s) thinks about that. They don't seem that necessary, so I may remove them soon if nothing comes up. Wikification (talk) 11:54, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
Alright then. That's why I came here to ask beforehand. FredCat 13:27, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
Excuse me for butting in here, but I believe it would be beneficial for you to know about Furrytopia and my opinion about these categories. In the past, Furrytopia has several times tried to establish categories that was unwanted or broke the rules on Sonic News Network, despite countless warnings not to do it (this extends to other Wikias as well). Once, he/she tried to establish those age categories. However, they were dismissed by a number of admins on the background that those were unneeded and fickle definitions which are prone to change or up to personal interpretations; like SNN's Chris Thorndyke went from child to teenager in the last season (not to mention his time displacement which makes it even more complicated). In a similar way, ME have Sonia Acorn (Light Mobius) and Manik Acorn which is a similarly hard to define. Furrytopia even proved its fickleness by adding the wrong age categories to a character on SNN. Understand though that I do not wish to put Furrytopia in a bad light, only make you guys understand a little more about him/her.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 20:46, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
That's fine, Ultrasonic... you're more of welcoming to add the options. I will leave that decision to Wikification. To me, it seemed unnecessary as well. FredCat 21:04, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
Oh, and it appears that TheFatPanda is taking in the idea, added the categories to a couple of articles already. FredCat 21:07, October 19, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up UltraSonic. I didn't see why we needed the categories since we can only speculate some of the characters ages (some can still seem young but are technically adult). Hopefully that won't become an issue with Furrytopia in the future. Anyway yeah, like FredCat pointed out, it looks like FatPanda has started using the new categories so I'll leave them like they are for now. Wikification (talk) 01:35, October 20, 2016 (UTC)
Same here, and I am not seeing Furrytopia in the bad way - I was just being caution due to my experience in the past. Most of the time I have seen other users put in categories, like the genders and anything (Male/Female in FNaF: World wikia, etc.), they got rejected just because they considered them useless and pointless. And I am following Wikification's decision, they are here to stay as well, as long as other admins are happy with them. FredCat 02:50, October 20, 2016 (UTC)
If that is your choices, then I accept them. If you end up disagreeing with it in the end though, you should not feel prohibited to take an initiative to point your disagreements out to the admins - in the end, admins' are not rulers and their decisions do not make something right. Not trying to bust your chops, just to pass on some experience.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 14:59, October 20, 2016 (UTC)
Oh, Don't worry. If there's some I strongly disagree with I'll put my foot down, even if the other admins are for it. Wikification (talk) 23:21, October 20, 2016 (UTC)
No worry about that article - I was just make sure. So now that I know they are... pardon the pun, old news at this point. FredCat 11:52, October 21, 2016 (UTC)

Splitting Articles

Thanks you for helpful advice. User:X-Mutant (talk) 2:01 Oct 22, 2016 (UTC)

Excessive articles?

I have noticed the splitting in articles lately. I want to apologize in case that I do not know how you guys do things, but I think people are being a little too hasty to add articles about subjects that has yet to appear. Things like Lava Reef Zone, Great Turquoise Zone, Meta Junglira Zone, Tidal Plant Zone, Sunset Park Zone, Hot Shelter, Twinkle Circuit, Never Lake, Collision Chaos Zone, Flicky Island, Tidal Tempest Zone, Cocoa Island... all of these locations have yet to make an appearance in the comics or have yet to even be mentioned at all. I know the comics are more like the games now, but would it not be proper procedure to wait until these subjects have at least be mentioned or mentioned by the writers on a forum or so, so it is known they have actually played a role in the comics rather than assuming that they exist and make info about them that serves no role?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 21:49, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

On this wiki, I thought we were treating most game events as canon in the Post-SGW timeline unless proven otherwise (as Ian did say that almost all game events have happen in the current continuity), which is why I didn't see a problem of what X-Mutant was doing. But you're right. We shouldn't speculate too much. I believe FatPanda has already deleted and undone the information. Wikification (talk) 08:53, October 23, 2016 (UTC)


Hey there, I was wondering if you had a Twitter account? Some of the mods and I are using the sites private messaging system to corraspond with eachother and we thought it'd be great if you could join us? TheFatPanda (talk) 15:00, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

I actually don't have a Twitter account. However, I'm starting to think I should maybe get one, if only to talk about Wikia matters. I only have some time on the web before I need to start dealing with others things in my life, so how often I can use Twitter will probably vary. Wikification (talk) 16:47, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Furrytopia

Thanks for handling the situation. I suppose we can keep him blocked until he decides to reach out to an administrator. Is that even possible to do while blocked? Diamonddeath (talk) 02:32, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Not sure. I think so, because when I blocked the user, I did allowed him/her permission to post on their talk page, in case Furrytopia wants to make amends. Wikification (talk) 12:18, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
Apologize for "butting in", but I wanna say my part - I don't think so. He would perhaps just going in the same cycle as he did before. Going to randomly wikia, uploading the images without permission, received the repeat warnings and got perma-banned, then that cycle start over on next wikia. That's from what I can see in here. So to get the solution for that situation; "This user is currently blocked across the Fandom network."
Again, my apologize for making myself join the discussion. All I wish was to give you some of my thought. FredCat 13:05, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
That doesn't sound very fair. We should give Furrytopia a chance to redeem himself/herself. I've seen some people who were given second chances and didn't cause trouble. Also, what if a user account was hacked and the hacker got the user blocked? Wikification (talk) 12:18, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
I know, but... he neglected to your friends' warning, like several times. I went through that the same with Sheena (her account name is Psychobilly2422) in Five Nights at Freddy's Wikia. I got a century-lengthened ban because of harassment, even after I had been told to not doing that multiple times. But hey, you're right, it's not fair for him to suffering in that way. It could be the hacker that puppeteering him, or perhaps it should be himself that tried his best but didn't understand the reason why he was doing it wrong. I am not coming here to say that he's a villain or something, I only come here to state that he perhaps didn't see his error and repeat the cycle of get himself banned in the wikia, one after another. I respect him for reach out to helping, but in wrong way (such as adding the pictures without the permission). FredCat 14:39, November 12, 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in, but I want to tell that this user has been many warnings like this across several wikias. Yet, despite how many warnings or second chances he is given, all he does is step back for a while and then return to do the same thing again. What I am trying to say is that this guy never makes an effort to redeem himself, and any attempt to give him warnings is a wasted effort. In other words, what has happened to him is completely fair.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 21:05, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Captain Shellcracker

Because that's what Vin Lovallo called him in the editor page at the end of the comic. Diamonddeath (talk) 09:37, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Okay then. I previously didn't see that. Wikification (talk) 11:07, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

No problem! Diamonddeath (talk) 05:23, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

SNN Info Boxes

I'm not sure who made the top=source coding for the that use information from Sonic News Network, but I'm wondering if it really is necessary. The same articles on both sites are describing the same thing, and I know users share things back and forth. Any thoughts on removing the info boxes? Diamonddeath (talk) 05:21, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

I created the source template for a few reasons. I wanted to make people aware that some written information were basically lifted from SNN and that the original authors need to be credited. I also wanted to sort of encourage people to create their own explanations and whatnot for articles rather than coping it from SNN. I've tried to kickstart the creation of more original articles and keep things fresh, but it doesn't seem to be working very well. It makes me a bit sad at times when seeing how much new and original comic-related content that is on SNN compared to this wiki, as some of our newer articles are not so up-to-date and we just copy from them. (Also, although I have used info from SNN in the past, I've only tried to do that with articles that were overdue for an update.) Wikification (talk) 16:04, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Issues 291...Cancelled?

Is that true? If it's cancelled, then what have happening to the next issues - #292?

The release date on #291 was April 25, then that user just came in, smashed the "Cancelled" post on the article and left last night. FredCat 11:22, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

New Category Ok?

Immortal Category added, is that ok? Just curiously. FredCat 10:53, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

I guess. As long as it doesn't cause problems. Wikification (talk) 21:03, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, I had to removed it from a couple of articles, such as Tails (since he aged up, immortal doesn't aged at all, such as Shadow). The same user put "Teenager" Category in Tails (Former version), only to forget that Tails is actually 8 years old, hardly teenager to me. FredCat 22:08, June 3, 2017 (UTC)
And he deleted my post about Immortal on Blaze and Tails. How gleefully! I will leave him to your hand and your judge for now. FredCat 02:20, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
Oh, wait! He ignored my advice and put Immortal back in Tails article. So yup, it's time to take the child gloves off and give him some scolds. FredCat 02:24, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
I'm not against having an immortal category, but the user does appear to be misusing it by adding characters who aren't immortal. It seems he/she has stopped for now though. If they start up again, I'll give them a warning, but if they continue to persist after that, I'll take action. Wikification (talk) 18:47, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
He's doing it again! How about now? FredCat 21:39, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
I've issued a warning. If the user does it again, I'll block him/her. Wikification (talk) 22:01, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
Alright, I will report when I see that user changes the article(s) again. FredCat 22:38, June 7, 2017 (UTC)
It's unfortunately that he didn't listen to your warning. And I will not judge your decision on his block. And if he do that again, would it be 3 days blocked? FredCat 12:10, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
One day to start. If the user cause more problems afterwards, I'll increase the days. I think I could kinda see what he was trying to do though. But still... Wikification (talk) 12:32, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
Yessir. And if he emptied his talk page again (like he did to my questions/warnings [though I wasn't supposed to do that]) that mean a harder punishment. FredCat 13:22, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
He done it again, so it's clear he's not fan of listen to the warning or news and wanted Sonic/Tails/Blaze to be immortal, despite us pointing him out. FredCat 10:50, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
I apologize for butting in, but has anyone else noticed that he made the Immortal category a subcategory for two new categories that do not have descriptions? There's nothing else in them besides the Immortal category as well. SonicStorm478 (talk) 20:16, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
Can't say for "Physical Ages", perhaps Shadow was 17 years old when he received his immortal. And for Harness Chaos Energy - Shadow also "harness" the Chaos Power, same thing go for Chaos Knuckles. So are Enerjak (various version, included Jani-Ca's), Crazy Super Sonic, Black Doom's Final Form, and Super Tikal (not really).
Ok, maybe Original Enerjak does physical aged up when Mammoth Mogul came in, ripped his Chaos Power out of him then left him as a broken elder echidna that relied on the machine in order to survive.
So in another word, you want one of us to put the descriptions in those categories to explain why they are present in "Immortal" Category? FredCat 20:25, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
Whoops, I should have clarified why I brought them up. I mainly brought them up because I was curious about them and wasn't sure if they were okay or not. The Harness Chaos energy category struck me a bit though, because it makes me wonder if he thought all Chaos energy users were immortal considering the characters he added to the Immortal category previously, which included Sonic, Tails Knuckles and Silver who have all used it before. I may just be reading into it too much however. SonicStorm478 (talk) 20:52, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that's why I came here and had a talk with Wikification about BROTHERMAN's misbehavior. I had to revert the one on Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Silver, Blaze the Cat, even Knuckles' future version (in where he's mortal after Sonic shot his eye out) back to normal. The reason why he put that on Blaze is because he believed that Blaze possessed a fire power, but mistook the pyromancer for Phoenix power, like Jean Grey from X-Men once had. Pyromancer ≠ Phoenix Power.
And yes, major number of immortal characters do harnessing the Chaos Energy. Silver wasn't, he only turn them back to Dark Enerjak in the battle. FredCat 22:10, June 9, 2017 (UTC)
It happened again before he put up all different topics, then he believed that Sonic's "Ultimate Lifeform" and "childhood" are superior to our warning, before he emptied it again. So it's time to put up the wall on him or is there any other ideas you have? FredCat 17:41, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
I don't mind if he's just editing his talk page. But if he starts causing problems with articles or categories again, you can be sure he'll get the consequences. Wikification (talk) 18:19, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Alright, but in my knowledge around the Wikia - it's impolite to take off the warning that give by the Admins from the Talk Page for any reasons. It showed disrespects. I learned that hard way when I was at Five Nights at Freddy's Wikia a while ago. But for now, as you requested, I will be sure to keep my eyes on him if he went and racked the categories again. FredCat 20:25, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

It's official now

That Archie Comic version of "Sonic the Hedgehog" is cancelled. My heart is wounded and it upset me as of now. FredCat 20:59, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

That's old. The email to subscribers read that Archie and Sega are "in talks" with one another over the comic series' future/fate. Officially, nothing about a series cancellation has been confirmed or denied so far. Wikification (talk) 18:27, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
I see - that must be why one user claimed that it's delayed until further notice. And to be honest, Ken Penders himself disgusted me for driving Ian to the corner at least twice, as far as I know. FredCat 20:29, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Dragonball Z Parallel?

It's second time this user omitted the important part of Ian's claim about the universes between Sonic the Hedgehog and Dragon Ball Z. Did Ian actually saying that or was it just a whole illusion of rumors? I decided to not put up the fight with him until I get your confirmation. FredCat 12:06, July 7, 2017 (UTC)

I don't know, but the info has been there a while. Wikification (talk) 10:17, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Rules Violation

Here's the user that violated the rules in two articles, as well as bring in two fanmade pictures. Clearly, he didn't understand the problem or reason behind his action. And yes, I know that it's early in the morning, but 'twas the time he sprung into the action. FredCat 07:30, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

I'll delete the images and if he tries again, I'll deal with the user. Wikification (talk) 10:23, July 9, 2017 (UTC)
It happened again. FredCat 12:21, July 9, 2017 (UTC)
It looked like he had intent to cause trouble so I skipped the warning and blocked him. Wikification (talk) 00:13, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

New IDW Sonic Wiki

Hey, since you helped in the past with making templates here and running things, would you be able to help us on the new wiki we started for the IDW Sonic comics coming out? The link is Thanks! Diamonddeath (talk) 05:25, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Also, I apologise for not being around so often. It seems the times I'm around tend to vary. I'll try to help out with the new wiki when I can. Wikification (talk) 09:43, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

If anything, the logo works as a great placeholder. As for referencing, how do wikis usually handle references? I liked the way we did things here, but we should do whatever is more convenient for the reader of the articles. Also, do you know how to make the templates? I've never worked with designing one for a wiki. Diamonddeath (talk) 23:58, October 21, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, yeah, I'll do some research. I'm wondering if we should continue ending paragraphs with the issue numbers in parenthesis like we've been doing here. I like it, as it helps organize things for referencing. Diamonddeath (talk) 07:53, October 23, 2017 (UTC)
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