Scourge shouldnt be in Mobians, cause hes a Moebian. Mobius and Moebius. ````
I disagree. Scourge renamed renamed his Mobius Moebius. Therefore, it was Mobius, and he should be considered Mobian. Then again, there could be an Anti-Mobius category. 72.148.235.183 00:51, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't looked at the page. 72.148.235.183 00:53, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
Though Moebius sounds better then Anti Mobius and since everything was changed to remove Anti from the names, i think Moebius is a good term. Also Sally made the term not Scourge.
Constant Changes[]
What's with all these numerous amounts of changes with nothing showing up? If there is an edit conflict going on, discuss it in here, don't just keep going back and forth. - Dimitri the Echidna 20:53, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, last night (or a couple nights ago) someone came in and deleted/changed a ton of information, I think it was vandalism. I, along with a few other members, were simply trying to undo all the bad changes made to an otherwise pretty good article. All seems well now, though, but I'm unsure if the person was a vandal, some disgruntled ex-member, or Scourge himself just trying to stir some stuff up :P White3agle510 01:01, March 2, 2010 (UTC)White3agle510
- AGE DESCREPINCY.
If Sonic was 16 int he beginning, then the fact hes had two birthdays in the comics and been lost in space for a year means he and Scourge should be 19, not 17.
Since the Genesis Wave, Sonic's age has probably been knocked down and if Scourge is still around, him too. Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 13:38, April 6, 2014 (UTC)
Scourge banned from the comics?[]
So most people thought Scourge was safe from the ban hammer because of how he was drastically redesigned and given a proper backstory, well now apperantly Flynn stated that the character is off limits which also means that Moebius was destroyed thus he and the anti mobians will never be seen again. Does anyone have any proof of this?
Wait you mean someone put that on there without any proof? That person got me worried for nothing. I am going to take it off. JokerJay779 (talk) 21:25, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
- The problem with a "banned" list is that there will never be any form of confirmation over what's "banned" and what isn't. It's a completely redundant and speculative category in the first place. TheDudestofGuys (talk) 13:29, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks to the Genesis Wave, some speculate that Scourge will revert to Evil Sonic, make a comeback that way and be refitted. Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 19:39, March 21, 2014 (UTC)
But Ken Penders made Evil Sonic. So it will probably be changed to Scourge been always known as Scourge in the rebooted Moebius. JokerJay779 (talk) 17:59, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
Sure hope you're right. As a direct translation of Sonic maybe that'll help keep him safe. He'll be major-league jacked off if the Destructix is wiped out, especially if his moll goes down with them. Well... if he survives... After the end of the "Lockdown" SU Arc, it was obvious there were plans for him... Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 14:18, March 25, 2014 (UTC)
I just noticed Scourge is on the cover of "Best of Sonic the Hedgehog Vol. 3". That said, I can't help but wonder---is he TRULY banned from use??? STH235SilverLover (talk) 00:41, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, he is truely banned from the comics. The only time you'll be seeing him is in reprints along with the other Ken Penders and possibly former writter characters. MeltingMan234 23:37, May 13, 2014 (UTC)
(Sigh) Yeah, I figured that'd be the case... Anyways, that's all I wanted to know. Thanks! STH235SilverLover (talk) 03:00, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
- I feel like Scourge's fate is still up in the air. It seems the covers are trying to avoid using Penders' material, even if that material is present in the selected reprints. For example, we probably won't ever see Julie-Su on any covers going forward, despite her being in the anticipated reprints for a long time all the way up until Sonic the Hedgehog issue 252. With that said, Scourge has recently appeared on the cover of Best of Sonic the Hedgehog: Rivals. Because Scourge's current design is different from what Penders' created, its possible that Scourge and maybe even Moebius will reappear in the future somehow. That is just speculation, though. Diamonddeath (talk) 04:03, May 15, 2014 (UTC)
Catagories[]
There really is no confirmation that he was removed, and the whole "Created By" Ken Penders is VEEEERY much up for debate. Due to his constant reappearance in advertisements, official art, solicitations, etc. (of which the removed characters are not allowed to have) I say we strike the catagories "Characters introduced by Ken Penders" and "Characters removed by the Super Genesis Wave" from Scourge's page until the official word has been given.
- My feelings excatly, no offense to meltingman but we need an official word that SCOOURGE is gone. As of now its 50/50, just like Thrash.Eliasacorn , May 26, 2014 (UTC)
- Exactly. There is no 'banned' list. It's basically an 'on hold' list - Archie can use those characters if they can be bothered to pay for them or buy them. And we don't even know what that list is. Ken Penders maintaining a creative hold on any kind of 'Evil Sonic'? That's a pretty shaky claim in the first place, especially after all the development he's gone through, turning green and changing his name, then having a backstory, then changing his entire dimension. We don't even know what that 'On Hold' list is, and I think Flynn would put off using him anyway. He's in the middle of Sonic Unleashed and hasn't even finished establishing where all of SEGA's puppies are. We know most of the Echidnas are wiped, but we don't even know what's going down with Silver! Moebius has plenty of time... Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 20:48, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
- We can't strike the created by category. Even if he can still be used in the comic, it doesn't change the fact that Ken originally conceived the character. All the created by categories just let users know who originally created the character/item/organization/location. There are examples of stuff that Ken Penders created that are still being used in the comics. The Avalon Freedom Fighters was a group originally created by Penders, but they still exist in the rebooted continuity. The majority of Penders' creations and concepts have been removed from the comics, but that doesn't mean all of them have been removed. They were able to keep the Avalon Freedoms Fighters in the comic by changing the group's name and getting rid of certain members. There are also characters that have been removed from continuity that weren't created by Penders. The characters removed by super genesis wave category isn't exclusive to Penders characters. It's just that most of the characters that have been removed were created by Penders. It is possible that Scourge will return at some point in the comics, but there is no guaranty that he will since he is a Penders character. We need to leave the removed category until there is official confirmation that he still exists in the new multiverse.DalekSupreme13 (talk) 07:52, November 2, 2014 (UTC)