User talk:Thot Prad

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Chat Exchanges with Fairfieldfencer
I'm afraid you're wrong, Thot Prad. The last names of the antis were included on the opening page of StH: #196. See?Fair field fencer F F F  08:48, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Reasonable enough.Fair field fencer F F F  22:17, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Thot Prad, I would have told you the same thing, but FFF here beat me to the punch. SEGA Fan BOSS 22:23, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

What do you think of Topaz? Need any work before being Article of the Week worthy?Fair field fencer F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  15:46, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dimitri, do you think I should make a new template for the clans? Or should I simply add options to the Groups template like Bride= Bride of the Conquering Storm. Species = Lynx.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:24, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you could just use the groups/organization template, just put the Brides under members and the type as "Lynx Ninja Clan" or something to this effect. - Dimitri the Echidna 12:26, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hang on. Do you mean list a Bride as a member, or place the Bride section under the members section?<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:38, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * List the Bride in the member section like a normal member would be, but place her under a Brides title. Do you know what I mean? - Dimitri the Echidna 12:39, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think so. Like in Guardian Units of the Nation?<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:43, February 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Precisely. - Dimitri the Echidna 12:44, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, Dimitri. I'm having a little crisis at home. I've finally got my own computer, but my e-mail went south when my father used the wrong details. I changed my e-mail on BumbleKing and as a result, my account's been de-activated. I need you to PM one of the mods for me to see if they can re-activate it, because I should have goot an e-mail doing that for me, but haven't.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:36, February 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem, I'll PM a mod now. - Dimitri the Echidna 08:49, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:21, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you heard back yet?<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:02, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in here, but I saw this among the recent changes... the account should be active now. CrazyLea 00:16, February 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you!<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:58, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

←I've got another image with her and Bunnie in. File:Bunnie Bashes Bat.jpg.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:06, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * So let me get this straight. Now that you've cleared everything up, all the Freedom Fighters (future version) were originally the Cyborg Freedom Fighters. Weren't they terminated? Guess the encyclopaedia will sort that out, but if there are two Robo-Robotniks like Ian believes, they will be seperate entities altogether.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:52, March 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay, so the version of the Freedom Fighters seen in Sonic In Your Face are not the same ones as the former Cyborg Freedom Fighters. Basically, you have NICOLE's home universe (shown in In Your Face and StH #119) and you have Cyborg Sonic's home universe, which after years looked like another future Mobius varient (shown in StH #22 and destroyed in StH #75). Make sense? - Dimitri the Echidna 09:02, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Now that I've got the full story, yes.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:40, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and here are the welcoming messages for anons and users. I thought you might like to know they can be edited, and where you can find them. Figured you might want to add something of your own to them.


 * MediaWiki:Welcome-message-anon
 * MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user
 * I just had a thought. We have a lot of characters with titles, don't we? Various princes, king, political leaders, perhaps we should add a title option to the character templates.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  16:34, March 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm not a bad idea, like a Rank or Title section. - Dimitri the Echidna 00:00, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Or both. We could type in Title to have it appear, but it shows up on the template as Rank/Title. Or we could have two different ones altogether, like rank for Lien-Da, and title for Knuckles, who has two titles.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  10:05, March 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think we should go with have one for rank and one for title. - Dimitri the Echidna 19:01, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, except it's not so much previewing as it is realising there's a better way of fashioning an article after you've made the edit.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  00:42, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I just had a new idea for a template. It's one for species titled "Other" for all those who have a species outside of human, mobian or overlander, like Shadow, Chaos or Aurora.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:44, March 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well Shadow is pretty much a mobian despite having other DNA mixed in there. Hmm I don't think it's really necessary since it only really applies for a couple of characters. I'll think about it. - Dimitri the Echidna 05:09, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone's ripping us off! http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/ <font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  15:37, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's bullshit. I sent a message to the creator/administrator of that site and I have also contacted wikia staff. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Under GNU copyright which wikias operate under they have to attribute it to this wiki. "The GFDL is a "copyleft" license, meaning the content can be copied, modified, and redistributed so long as the new version grants the same freedoms to others and acknowledges the authors of the Wikia page.". I notice Sonic News Network hasn't really been doing this much either, so maybe you could make a template on that wiki to put into articles taken from this wiki. - Dimitri the Echidna 01:40, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I must disagree with you there. SNN does have a template saying what articles were made from this wikia's content. http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/E-123_Omega_(Archie) <font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  09:11, March 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah true, but I've seen so many Archie-Sonic related articles there that don't use the template. I guess I could always add it where it's needed. I put the template into a lot of articles but numerous ones are still missing it. If you could help me out with that on SNN that'd be appreciated. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:20, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've done quite a few, but I'm calling it a day for the moment and will continue later.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  16:19, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Luger, does the new Archieverse rule of games include the statistics given by Sonic Channel? If so, it would mean that Shadow was a metre tall, Rouge was 18, and Omega'd weighed near a ton. But it would also bring up upsets, like Omega being under five feet tall, yet towering over Eggman.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:02, March 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * No because it would probably contradict height comparisons seen in the comics. What as quasi-canon from the games is very specific like species of characters, etc. - Dimitri the Echidna 06:01, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

This is in regarids to Moritori Rex's main image. It's not the best one. I think what is the best is him in this image here. File:MoritoriDimitriLienDa.png I think a scan should be taken at an angle so he's straight up on the scan, and then uploaded here to use as his main image.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  18:58, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the current image is fine for the template one, since the other one you pointed out fits better in th article itself. Template images don't have to show the entire body of the character, though if possible it's generally preferred to use full-body pictures for the character templates. Also, this kind of discussion would be better on the Moritori Rex talk page. - Dimitri the Echidna 18:37, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's up and it's 250px in size. What do you think? <font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  12:37, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * And also, I realised something recently. In SU: #4, we see Capital City and we believe it's Station Square. But Station Square is inside a mountain, and it was viewed from Guardian Mountain. That would mean there is a mountain inside the mountain, and I don't recall ever seeing one. Therefore, Capital City is a new city.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:32, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Correction, Station Squad was inside a mountain, but when the Xorda attacked they destroyed the mountain top. Hugo Brass pointed this out to the President in the "Home" arc, saying the attack left their city vulnerable. So, Station Square can now be seen from the outside. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:23, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up. Now what about my previous post?<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  07:11, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thot Prad, have you lost interest here at all? Or are you just busy with University? If it's the former, we might have some things to discuss.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  06:31, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Since you are losing interest in the comics, and Wiriamu is leaving for two years, then I think you should make me a fellow bureaucrat and appoint some new admins. User:Sen10elS and User:CrazyLea seem like prime candidates.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:47, July 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I may be losing some interest but I have not stopped reading the comics altogether, nor have I stopped checking up on this site. There are plenty of moderators and good users here to keep up the site quality despite my less frequent visits. - Dimitri the Echidna 01:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:27, July 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is in regards to changing the canon policy, but only by adding. The Sonic and Sonic Universe Blogs are being used by Ian to name and address loads of stuff left in the dust for years. Like the name of the Egg Hawk, and Rotor's mother, Georgette. All these posts are done by Ian himself, and I think whatever's said in the posts should be accepted as official canon.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  17:20, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but it would fall under tier 2 in that if it's contrary to what's shown in the comics, it's not canon. - Dimitri the Echidna 05:05, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Here's a problem. Data files from the comic are tier 2, and the blog is tier 2. Dr. Eggman's data file written by former writer Ken Penders says their is one Robo-Robotnik, while current writer Flynn says on the blog there are two Robo-Robotniks. Boy, if I was writing this comic, I'd just make one of them to avoid confusion. But that's not the issue here. I'm asking you which you think overpowers the other. According to Background Info on Eggman, one Robo-Robotnik said there were two Robos, and now the current writer has backed that up, while the data file contradicts tier 1, what's been said in the comic.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  07:15, July 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well since StH #75 merged the two Robo-Robotnik's into one, until the encyclopedia comes out the the canonicity of that issue overrules the tier 2 statement of the blogs. - Dimitri the Echidna 01:57, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * An IP has created a template to add to all the Aricles of the Week. User:Fairfieldfencer/Template:Article of the Week‎ What is your opinion? Also, we suffered a major vandal attack recently. Bigger than I've seen in a while. I wasn't there to stop it. I really think some of the more active users here like Sen10 or G-Mel should be given admin status to keep things in shape. I know this is a small wikia with little vandalism, but with a couple of more people, we could really pound whoever breaks the rules at any time into the ground.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  14:30, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * An Article of the Week template is a good idea, I had considered making one for a while but never got around to it. As for the vandal attacks, I was away all weekend when it happened and thus was unable to deal with it. I'll probably promote someone who is a very active user to moderator so that these things can be dealt with much quicker. Thanks for the recommendations and for cleaning up the vandal mess while I was absent. - Dimitri the Echidna 19:11, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't thank me. When I got here, it was first thing in the morning. The guy had stopped by now and G-Mel and another user called Sparkster64 had reverted most of his edits. Now, do you want this template in a specific place? You know, top or bottom of the page?<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  20:47, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dimitri, this is getting too much for me. There are more editors coming in (IPs who are inexperienced and can't spell) who are making additions that do not suit our Manual of Style. I need help. I demand you offer administrator status to some more people. It might seem like overkill, but with overkill, you always have back-up, you don't have to worry about someone not watching and there's always someone there to get the job done when I'm not here.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  07:56, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay, I've been super busy with university work which is why I have barely been seen on here for a while. I don't have nearly as much free time as I used to. I made CrazyLea and Arbiter0416 two new site administrators today. That will have to do for now until I review other active members. I feel is necessary to once again thank you for your contributions to the site and for keeping it tidy during my absence. - Dimitri the Echidna 19:38, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for seeing to that so quickly. Those two are excellent choices and I hope they take their rolls on board.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  19:58, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Pic upload
Hey Thot Prad, sorry to be a bother, but I uploaded the current SU: #13 cover in here, but I think I clicked on the wrong type of license. I need to know which type of license to click on and/or what I need to do to correct it. If you or FFF can let me know so I can fix ir or if one of you two can take care of that, I'd appreciate it. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    03:22, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, I corrected the non-free use rationale. - Dimitri the Echidna 06:42, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Pardon me,but what happen to the picture on Juanita?I worked hard on that one.Hikaruyami-having fun* 11:52, February 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * That image was so small it was almost useless. If a larger version of that image can't be found then there's no point in uploading it. Not all articles need an image. - Dimitri the Echidna 04:43, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I got pictures, if you need any let me know
Hey, I see you're kinda the mod around here, wanted to ask if you needed any pics for articles. I got up to sonic 190, along with the miniseries and knuckles spinoff (only thing i don't have is sonic universe). Just wanted to let you know I'm here to help out, and if you need a pic for an article, let me know via e-mail or leave a message on my talk page.

White3agle510 04:37, February 26, 2010 (UTC)White3agle510


 * That's good to hear. I'm actually the administrator and creator of this website. I have almost every issue from the main Archieverse comics (I'm only missing StH #75, the Princess Sally Miniseries, Sonic Live, Sonic Blast, and Super Specials #6, #7, #9) so I'm not sure if there are any images I won't be able to scan in myself. However if you see any articles where existing scans are poor you can replace them, or if there are articles without images feel free to scan in an image and upload it for that article. Just a heads up, you must include the Non-free use rationale after you have uploaded an image. If you need help figuring it out, just ask. Happy contributing! - Dimitri the Echidna 04:43, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the Hamlin page, had the pic, just couldn't fit it in just right without screwing up the whole page. Thanks again, White3agle510 05:10, February 26, 2010 (UTC)White3agle510


 * No problem. Whenever an image is placed in an article, it must be aligned to the left if it is beside a main identification template, otherwise the font gets pushed underneath the template along with the image. - Dimitri the Echidna 05:11, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Genesjs
Hello, my name is Genesjs, AKA Gen, G and Phoenix the Cat. I have a question for you: I noticed that some of the Sonic X Comics pages have little (Or no) information in them, and I was wondering, as long as I have permission from an Admin over at the SNN, if I can add the information on the Sonic X comics pages from the SNN's to the ones that we have here? Phoenix the Cat <font color="#ff0000">The flames reborn....  19:54, March 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I suppose you could technically import the summaries over from Sonic News Network as long as you get permission from the people over there. However the comic template will have to be the one from this site, and the main layout of the articles will have to be formatted to match the Manual of Style for comic articles. Internal links will also need to be corrected (for characters, locations, etc.) Please keep that in mind and don't just copy/paste the entire text from SNN comic articles because they'll need to be formatted in the areas I just specified. - Dimitri the Echidna 07:11, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate/Cyborg reality contradiction
I have to ask you something, i have watched #75, and while it's true that Robo-Robotnik at first makes it sound as though it's his reality, he then states "After locating the piece that had lain dormant in the future reality where I was trapped, I rebuilt a suitable body for myself." So which one should we accept as Canon. - Marvel and DC 21:27, March 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * That was the line I had used to explain he was in a different zone, but after re-examining the evidence I found that Robo-Robotnik repeatedly states that was his home zone. So, he's stating he was trapped in his home universe basically. This is stated numerous times in StH #75 and confirmed in his data file in StH #108. This means Cyborg Sonic is the same Sonic seen in StH #22, just de-roboticized. Considering years took place between Robo-Robotnik's first and second appearance in comic timeline, its no surprise Sonic was able to roboticize himself and become part of the Royal Family. - Dimitri the Echidna 23:41, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Moderator position
Hello Thot Prad, how are you? I saw your new rules and would like to ask if you're still looking for an extra moderator. I have some extra time on my hands right now (aside from my job) and if the position needs to be filled, I'd be happy to volunteer. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    01:45, March 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for stepping up to the plate. I'm going to take some time to review your edits and make sure you've followed the sites rules in your contributions. I'm looking for people who are familiar with the site's policies, guidelines, layouts, etc. so they will know what to look for when reviewing users changes to articles. I'm pretty busy this weekend but I'll get back to you ASAP. - Dimitri the Echidna 01:47, March 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey Thot Prad, how's it going? Just wondering if you're still looking for another moderator. Feel free to check my contributions to this site and let me know when you can. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    03:35, April 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey Thot Prad, sorry this is a bit late, but I would like to personally thank you for making me one of the site's new admins. I will definitely continue to contribute to this wiki and to keep it as clean and tidy as possible. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    01:52, October 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * To hopefully clear up anything going on right now, I'm going through the comic article summaries to either make any necessary corrections or delete any summaries that are beyond correcting, do not follow the wiki's Manual of Style, and are overall too sloppy in general. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    14:28, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I've decided to try something else instead. Please see here for more details. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    18:12, October 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. One of the biggest issues about this site being a wiki-based one is that there is always going to be people who aren't the best writers who want to contribute, and not all of them have english as their first language either. The resulting edits can sometimes be disastrous, as can be seen in some of the edits to comic articles. One of the other issues I have is in non-comic articles however. Often people will simply type up a large summary of what happens in a particular issue, focusing not just on the character of the article, but on everyone. The result is a lot of copy-paste + slighted edited material in articles. An example of this would be the articles for Sergeant Simian, Lightning Lynx, Flying Frog and Predator Hawk, who have a lot of the material in their articles copy and pasted wholesale. I'd really like to see this get fixed so every article is a lot more unique, even when there isn't a lot of unique information to tell about each character. - Dimitri the Echidna 00:03, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Question about 2 miscellaneous Archie Sonic Comics
Hey Dimitri, I was just wondering what the sites policy was the for the Issues of StH 1/4 and the Sonic and the Secret Rings Adaptation? Should articles be made for the two of them? The 1/4 issue was published by Archie back in 1992, and the Secret Rings adaptation was produced by Archie Comics, but was published by Sega as a Target Exclusive for the game. These two issues are sort of in a grey area and I wanted to get ruling if they should be apart of the site or not. <font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  05:42, March 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Sonic and the Secret Rings is not canon at all. It was published with a game so I wouldn't regard it as canon. As for StH #1/4 are you talking about the original miniseries, or something else? - Dimitri the Echidna 06:40, March 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * The 1/4 issue was published by Archie comics several months before issue 0. Here's a link to a copy of the issue currently being sold on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Sonic-the-Hedgehog-Comic-book-issue-1-4-rare-issue_W0QQitemZ150420479364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2305c25d84 I have the issue in my possession and I can make the article for it this weekend. <font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  14:51, March 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * That link just shows the issue cover for the first issue of the Sonic Miniseries. I think the 1/4 you are talking about is the same thing as the Original Sonic Miniseries, which we already have articles for. - Dimitri the Echidna 21:34, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dimitri, I have the issue in question and I can tell for certain that it's different than Issue 0. The covers between 1/4 and O are different in a couple of ways. First the background for Issue 0 is all white, Issue 1/4 is Yellow with a white border. The comic itself is 6 pages long, thus the reason for the numbering of 1/4 and contains part 1 of the Don't cry for Mobius story. The 1/4 quarter issue is the first issue of Archie Sonic the Hedgehog published and as such is the first appearance of the the Knothole Freedom Fighters, Robotnik and his various Minions. The book also contains the publication date for Issue 0 on the back as a means of advertising for the series. In short this this the first Archie Sonic Comic ever published and as such deserves it's place here on the site.<font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  21:46, March 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well they're old enough to be disregarded. There was another Sonic comic which predates the Original Miniseries but it is so different it doesn't fit into the Archieverse. If these 1/4 issues are just similar versions of the Original Miniseries with minor differences, no need to include them. - Dimitri the Echidna 22:20, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of the Sonic Mini Comic published in 1991, for I happen to own a copy of the issue. In fact I own a copy of every single Sonic Comic ever published in the United States. However your point by using the Mini-comic as a reason as to why the 1/4 issue should not be included on the site is not valid. For one thing that issue was not produced or published by Archie Comic, but by another comic company as a means to advertise for Sonic 1 back in 1991. 1/4 is however an issue of Sonic the Hedgehog which was produced and published by Archie Comics as part of their line of Sonic the Hedgehog comics back in early 1992 and is officially the first appearance of nearly all of the main characters in the book. Disregarding this is disregarding a piece of Archie Sonic History, and I thought it was the purpose of this site to be the most definitive, accurate, and accessible encyclopedia and reference for everything related to the Archie Sonic the Hedgehog universe. Disregarding this issue defies that very purpose that this site stands for. So really it's up to how you want Mobius Encyclopaedia to be, completely 100% accurate or a partial misrepresentation of the facts. I know what I'd do.<font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  00:21, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * When you can provide me with a link to a page showing the covers and detailing their distinction from the original Sonic miniseries I'll look into it. This is the first I've ever heard about these issues and until I look into it and validate your claims to ensure their place in Archie continuity they won't be posted up here. I await the evidence. The link you gave me didn't show me anything distinct. - Dimitri the Echidna 00:27, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * You will have it on Saturday.<font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  00:32, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * I look forward to it. - Dimitri the Echidna 00:32, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait no more. It's Saturday and here are the scans. First up a high res scan of StH 1/4, which can be found in the following link.
 * [StH 1/4 Cover]


 * Next is the comparison shot between StH 1/4 and StH 0.


 * 


 * The differences between the two covers are obvious enough but I've also labeled them and and will list them here.
 * 1.) There is a white border on 1/4 which is absent from StH 0.
 * 2.) The background color between the two covers are different. On 1/4 it is Yellow on O is is white.
 * 3.) I have underlined this one on the two issues, they are actually numbered 2 different issue numbers.
 * 4.) StH 1/4 has Free From Sega in the place of the bar code on StH 0.
 * There is one more piece of information that 1/4 has, besides being the first appearance of Sonic, Tails, Sally, Rotor, Antoine, and Robotnik. The exact publication date of issue 0 is printed on the back of the issue, which can be seen in the following link.


 * StH 1/4 Back Cover


 * Hope this proved informative, I await your decision as to whether or not 1/4 should get it's article.<font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  01:01, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Very informative and detailed, just the kind of evidence I needed. I'll adjust the comic list template to include it and an article can be made for it. I'm curious, is there any difference in the story between StH #1/4 and Sonic Miniseries #0? I realize the covers are different, but what about the inside of the book? I'd be interested to know what the difference is between the two. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:34, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is a similar situation to what is going on between Sonic Firsts and SSS #3, only slightly different. Whereas SSS #3 is a complete reprint of Sonic Firsts, which in itself was a reprint of stories previously published in different issues, StH 1/4 is the original publication of the story "Don't Cry For Me, Mobius! Part 1". Though Sir Charles and Muttski do not appear in this issue. The story was reprinted in StH 0 and finished with part 2. I'll make a note of that in the background information for the issue.<font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  02:49, March 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah I figured it was like Sonic Firsts and SSS #3. Do you know what month it was published? I've created the base article for it, it can be found here. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:55, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I know it was before November 1992, but other than that I can't be more specific. Even the little copyright blurb on the first page isn't more specific than that. :?<font color="Crimson">The  Illustrious  <font color="#F4C430">Q  03:03, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

New Eggman pic
Hello Thot Prad, how are you? I went ahead and uploaded the "Hannibal Eggman" pic from StH: #210, but on my first attempt, the image was too small, and on my second and most recent attempt, the image got too blurry. Can you help me with this please? <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    04:13, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. It seems to have corrected itself. <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva"> Arbiter   <font color="#191970" face="monotype corsiva">  0416    04:15, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

I have to say, this image made me wonder - to what degree can images here be edited compared to the original source? For instance, I'm pretty sure that this Eggman picture has been rotated to make him look like he's standing straight up - isn't the original panel angled on the page? CrazyLea 04:28, March 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I've fixed that. As for Lea's above post, I would only consider rotating the angle of an image an option when in need of a main image. Like what I did with Iron Blimp. Otherwise, the scenes should be depicted as they are.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  07:40, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Alternate vs. Future Mobius from Wiriamu
Well Dimitri, your deal with Cyborg Sonic and Dr. Eggman's universes being the same higher up on the page is a big part of the answer. The other part is that, if you look at the Background Information for that Mobius, you'll see that I posted a query I made to Ian, in which he basically told me that, for the sake of simplicity, it's reasonable to look at NICOLE's Mobius of origin as being the same one that Dr. Robotnik was blasted into by E.V.E. If they're the same, and your reasoning higher on the page is correct, it means that NICOLE comes from Cyborg Sonic's Mobius, and that effectively means that the Royal Family Robotnik Prime encountered was the same one that created NICOLE and sent her to Mobius Prime. Now if a private message response from Ian that I posted on Bumbleking doesn't count with the site's canon policy, I apologize; I should have looked at it more closely. If it does count with the policy, then I was simply attempting to condense redundant articles, which is just part of the job here on the site. Again, I apologize for any inconvenience to you or error on my part.Wiriamu 04:35, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * No need to apologize. One reason I don't really regard that statement as proper is because Ian overlooked the first Lara-Su's universe in that statement, and it was also his way of saying how things could be seen for the sake of simplicity. I wouldn't take that statement with a lot of regard towards the continuity however for those two reasons. - Dimitri the Echidna 04:38, March 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Good to know. Maybe I'll bring it up to Ian the next time he does Ask Ian, just to clarify the matter. I actually noticed the first Lara-Su thing too, but I figured it was either an oversight or based on the fact that her timeline has little to do with any major events in the comics and is unlikely to be revisited: the timelines we're discussing are where Eggman and Nicole came from, two major characters. While he hasn't said anything, I could see him revealing something of Nicole's origin to the Freedom Fighters at some point along the line.Wiriamu 04:50, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

Integration of Nz17.com's Sonic Wiki Material
Hello Thot Prad, I am Sean "Nz17" Robinson of Nz17 Productions. I would like to have the the data from my sub-site, Sonic Wiki, integrated into the Mobius Encyclopaedia. The reason being is that I have lost interest in maintaining the project and would not like to see the data and resources disappear just due to my disinterest and desire to retire the sub-site. While I was the primary contributor I did create and receive some favorable contributions from others that I think ME would find useful including image scans. However the general lack of updates to the Sonic Wiki by the community made me feel apathetic, and the sadly more frequent vandalism made me feel disheartened.


 * Hi Sean, I got your message. I have to say, years before I started my wiki I had come to this site often, and this was sort of the inspiration for the Mobius Encyclopaedia project. That said, I'm not entirely sure what content could be moved over. M.E. already has articles for every character on this site. Furthermore, M.E. only deals with Archie-Sonic canon, which does not include Sonic SatAM or any other Sonic media. But if there are some things you think could be brought over let me know on my user talk page at M.E. Also the pager rank credit would be great. I recommend you create a profile at M.E. and we discuss this further on my talk page.

Well first please see our gallery of images for whatever you may be missing. I know that ME does not have the Data File scans from the Ken Penders years, and there are numerous other scans showing characters' design changes over time. It you use anything, please do click the "full size" link to get the image at its original resolution. Further, a comparison should be done between SW and ME's existing character profiles to make sure there isn't any information that exists only on the SW profiles that belongs on ME.


 * Many of the members of here have the majority of the issues, so the scans on your website are either already here or can easily be scanned in and uploaded. As for the data files, we used to use the pictures from those as the profile pictures for the character articles, but we stopped when we found better ones from actual parts of the stories. The information from the data files has been incorporated into the articles of the characters who had data files made. If there's any information missing from the articles on Mobius Encyclopaedia that is present on their Sonic Wiki articles you can easily edit them in, just make sure to do it following this site's Manual of Style. Anything else? - Dimitri the Echidna 05:05, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, well, I guess if you have all of the data files' info incorporated, and you don't need the scans, and you don't want the full-page data files' scans uploaded, the only thing left is the possibility of missing info that SW has that ME doesn't. And it seems like a lot of effort for just one person to go through and compare all of the various profiles. So if there is nothing that needs to be transferred, I'll leave Sonic Wiki as-is until Saturday at which point I'll take it offline and redirect visitors to ME. - Nz17 22:28, March 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah I think we have all the bases covered already. Keep in mind if you see anything that's missing from the articles you can add it in yourself, but so far I think we've done a pretty good job getting in the relevant information. Welcome to Mobius Encyclopaedia and thanks for redirecting Sonic Wiki to here. - Dimitri the Echidna 06:31, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Redirection has begun. Let me know if you see a pleasant spike in traffic arriving at M.E. courtesy of Nz17 Productions. :-) Nz17 17:54, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sally Acorn Article
Just a thought, but the Sally article seems to have been quite thoroughly cleaned up. I would recommend taking it off the overall cleanup list, but naturally I bow to your judgment. It just no longer seems necessary to me.Wiriamu 03:51, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Clean up does seem uneccessary now, but it is a stub. I'm sorry I haven't finished adding in all the issues she appeared in, but I have been quite busy. It will get done. I assure you.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer  <font  color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:47, April 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah once the article is completed we'll remove the template. One thing that bothers me, not just about the Sally arcitle, is that every time a new issue comes out people tend to just post a generic summary of what happens in said new issue into character's articles. Another thing that irks me (the Sally article at present is a good example of this) is that a lot of the time there will be small paragraphs and not very detailed information for older issues, which have several issues being referenced, while more recent information gets massive paragraphs and only references a single issue. I'd like to see more of a balance between new and old issue information and reduce generic summaries in character's articles to more specific information forcusing on that character. This was one of the new site policies introduced to the Manual of Style. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:06, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Be fair. Older issues are harder for people to come by. I'll try and make more of a balance in my summaries.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer  <font  color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  08:49, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Triple F definitely has a point, but I can see where that's a problem too. I'll try and work on it as well.Wiriamu 05:47, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Heads Up
Hey Dimitri, Wiriamu here. I figured I might as well give you a heads up regarding a change to occur rather soon: I'm actually going to be leaving for 2 years on a mission as of this August 4. Unfortunately, this means that I will be unable to edit or contribute to the Mobius Encyclopedia. I just wanted to thank you for the help you've been in my time here, and also ask if there was any way my profile could be kept active while I'm gone; I know how these things can be if you don't log on for too long. Whether or not that's possible, thanks anyway; I'll continue to edit while I'm still here and have anything to contribute, and hopefully I'll be back and editing sometime in August or September of 2012-I'll have a lot to catch up on first!Wiriamu 00:03, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wiriamu, you have been an excellent contributor at Mobius Encyclopaedia and you will be missed. As you probably noticed I have not been very active at this site the past few months, which is a result of moving back to Ontario, preparing for university here, and a declining interest in the comics. Still, I come around from time to time when I am able. But back to you - I will do what I can to ensure your account is kept active during your absence, and I look forward to your return in 2012. Best of luck on your mission. - Dimitri the Echidna 05:49, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your kind words and your help, and I look forward to accomplishing what I can while I'm still here and continuing my contributions when I return.Wiriamu 14:34, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Affiliation?
Hiya! I was told by FairfieldFencer that you are the person to speak to regarding website affiliations... I was wondering if you would be interested in a link exchange or affiiation agreement between the Mobian Encyclopedia, and my website, MobianLegends.com... We seem to have many of the same goals in mind for our websites (catering to Archie-Sonic fans). ~ RingtailedFox - RTF's Website 03:46, August 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * Give me some time to check out your website and I'll get back to you. - Dimitri the Echidna 03:26, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia new skin
I'm going to hate ask you this, but what is this mobious enciclopaedia condition to new skin being imposed by wikia, i like this wiki and i would hate to give up on coming here do to the headaches that the new skin give me--Ashendant 21:03, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I too have noticed periodically the site skin changes to the "new wikia" look, which annoys me just as much as the next person. If you want to go back to the standard look, go to your preferences page, click on the skins tab, then select MonBook, and that should fix the problem. I hope that helps. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:29, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, that won't work come November. They're getting rid of the monobook option so we all have to use their skin.<font color="#FF2400">Fair <font color="#FFA500">field <font color="#FF2400">fencer <font color="FF2400">F <font color="#FFA500">F <font color="#FF2400">F  10:22, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Which gives me headaches and the reason a few wikis are leaving wikia like wowwiki simpsons wikia among others, and it looks absolutely ghastly, the infobox is in the middle of the screen and the article crammed to the left of that, also MORE ADDS, it also requires you to remake every article due to how badly the skin is designed--Ashendant 10:35, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/File:Custom_theme.png


 * I think they're just getting rid of the "Monaco" skin, but Monobook should still be around for each individual to select, even after the change is made. That's what's been said on another wiki, but I'll look around to confirm whether this is accurate or not. - Dimitri the Echidna 16:43, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * From what i was told they are forcing that skin to be mandatory since they only want people to use that skinAshendant 22:21, October 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I understand it, the new skin will be the default skin, but it won't be mandatory. I believe you'll still have the option to chose other skins, hopefully MonoBook is one of them. A lot of people in the wikia community are voicing their desire to have MonoBook kept around. We can only hope the Wikia staff listen. If not, I'll see what I can do about creating a new skin altogether based on the existing MonoBook one. - Dimitri the Echidna 22:23, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I would like to extend an offer to ME. You see, SFW and SNN plan on moving to a different site, out of Wikia's control. This move however, would preserve all data, privelages, history, and contributions. Are you interested in hearing out this possibility, to see if ME would like to move as well?--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 07:10, November 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am interested in the possibility of moving Mobius Encyclopaedia away from wikia's control. What did you have in mind exactly? - Dimitri the Echidna 06:43, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

A user on Sonic News Network and Sonic Fanon Wiki has a father who owns a company with a hosting site called 12pointdesign.com. This User's father is able to copy all of a wiki's data to the fullest extent, then copy all said data onto a blank "HuskWiki" created with MediaWiki programming. After copying this data, all history, contributions, images, and privelages will be copied, basically "cloning" the wikis. The process could take quite a while, but it would be well worth it, as Mobius Encyclopaedia would be copied completely as-is, and completely out from under Wikia's control. There is an issue as to what to do with the original (my suggestion to wikis is to delete and tear down everything, including blanking/deleting all MediaWiki pages), but aside from that and the waiting time, there's no downside. It's 100% free, with no advertizements.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 06:33, November 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * It sounds almost too good to be true. On 12pointdesign.com it lists prices for web hosting plans. Would it be free strictly because the son of the person who owns the company would get his dad to upload it all for free? Also, would Mobius Encyclopaedia still remain a separate website from both Sonic News Network and Sonic Fanon Wiki with a different URL address and everything? As for what to do with the existing sites, if wikia was able to make them simply redirects to the new one that would be best, as the sites would not lose their hits for search engines. The pros to this sound good, especially since the websites would no longer have to conform to wikia's basic skin themes or have advertisements. - Dimitri the Echidna 02:28, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well that could possibly be the reason. However, not being paying customers is one of the reasons it's taking so long. Anyway, yes the wikis would remain seperate, just as they are now. Some Users on the SFW want to affiliate all the Sonic wikis under a group name "Sonic Nexus", much like how NIWA is affiliated. Anyway, I seriously doubt that Wikia would be willing to make anything on any of the wikis redirects, hence my previous suggestion. However, that suggestion is strictly post-successful move, so as to minimize risk.--<font color="#0000FF">Kagi <font color="#FF0000">mizu -<font color="#008000">Seeya <font color="#FFA500">'round 19:18, November 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Another question - what kind of domain names does 12pointdesign.com provide? - Dimitri the Echidna 19:21, November 9, 2010 (UTC)