User talk:Wikification

Welcome
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Notification
Please add a full summary for all the images you have uploaded, and will upload in the future. If you do not know how to make one, simply go to another image, press edit (but don't save), and alter the summary there to rightly describe your image. Please let me or another Administrator know if you need any further assistance! Diamonddeath (talk) 08:19, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Righto then. Sorry for the inconvenience.Wikification (talk) 09:27, December 13, 2015 (UTC)

Wendy Naugus
So, are you suggesting that if, hypothetically, they put a character named Witchcart into the Archie comic alongside Wendy Naugus (without the plot device of additional relatives or alternate selves/realities in play), they would be so different that them existing side-by-side wouldn't be awkward at all? Witchcart had no defining characteristics other than being a VERY generic witch (and possibly just being a crazy old lady, but that's never officially confirmed or denied). Wendy may be a different species (maybe. the game never explicitly stated Witchcart was human, though it would be natural to assume that) but she still resembles Witchcart in every way that counts and fulfills the same exact role (literally, as the game's plot is canon to the comics) to the point that saying they should be considered seperate characters is, quite frankly, splitting hairs to the point of ridiculousness. Patrick666 (talk) 11:08, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Look, I didn't make a fuss when you changed my first edit under "Background Information", I just wanted to highlight another possibility around the restrictions. Anyway, I don't feel like going on about this. I tried to make compromise with my last edit on that article, but since you're still not satisfied I'll remove my edits on the page. Don't think I'll be doing that every time though. Wikification (talk) 12:11, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I'm sorry I blew up like that. It was very unprofessional of me. Though I stand by what I've said. But I promise to try to be more even tempered and professional in the future and not throw stupid tantrums like that. Honestly, I'm embarassed. Patrick666 (talk) 14:13, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

...Yeah, that's alright :). I dealt with things like this in the past. Although I'd like to put my edits of an alternate possibility back on the article, I'll continue to leave them off to avoid anymore conflict. Wikification (talk) 02:06, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

So... I went ahead and put that alternate possibility thing back into the background section (slightly reworded). I've had long enought to mull it over, and I realise that I was in the wrong and I was being unreasonable. Again, I'm sorry for acting like such a jerk. Patrick666 (talk) 20:18, February 16, 2016 (UTC)

Question
Why did you move pages to titles such as "Walter Naugus (Pre-SGW)" and "Ixis Naugus (Post-SGW)"? That wasn't really need at all... :/ ★ WindStar7125   Talk    Contribs  17:16, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

I know. X(

I thought I could fix things using redirects and renaming pages, but as you saw it just became one big cluster. I'm sorry about that. Just trying to help and failed. I'll let you handle things. Wikification (talk) 17:27, March 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, don't worry, I'm not mad, I was just a bit confused there ^^ Here, I'm asking an admin to try to fix it a bit. I added a new feature to the Parent Tab template, and I'll show you how to use it once things settle down first. :P ★ WindStar7125   Talk    Contribs  17:30, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

re: Missed one?
Lol oh boy. I did miss that one. Thanks! I guess I'll use it as an example. :P Okay. So I added new parameters to the Parent Tab template, called  and. Basically, it's for using the Parent Tab to link two different pages together, rather than just "Page" and "Page/Pre-SGW", it'll link together "Page" and "Page". If that makes sense, lol. Basically, let's say there are two pages that have roughly the same subject, but different names Pre-Super Genesis Wave and Post-Super Genesis Wave (Like Sonic's World and Mobius). Since "Sonic's World" is the Post-SGW article, use " " in the Parent Tab template to customize the link for the second tab (which links to the "Pre-SGW" article). "Mobius" is the Pre-SGW article, so use " " to customize the link for the first tab (which links to the "Post-SGW" article). With this, we'll no longer have to use redirects to make the tabs work. ^^ For pages with infoboxes, like Walter Naugus and Ixis Naugus, simply use " " inside the infobox on Walter's page, and " " in the infobox on Ixis' page. It's also important to never use the  and   parameters on the same page. ^^ I'll use King Acorn as an example to show you. :P 01:07, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Alright then. But just so it's clear, we can still use the original method (as in name/Pre-SGW) for characters, groups, etc, that have the same names in both timelines (example: Sonic the Hedgehog for the new world and Sonic the Hedgehog/Pre-SGW for the old world) right, or do you have something else in mind of that? Wikification (talk) 01:56, March 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that won't change. :) We'll still use that method. 02:00, March 26, 2016 (UTC)

Article Merge/Tabbing Request
Hey, major kudos for all the work you've been doing lately! Would you consider merging the Egg Army and Dark Egg Legion pages and giving them the same treatment? We feel they should've been considered one and the same to begin with and we dunno how they ended up as separate pages. Thanks! TheFatPanda (talk) 20:41, March 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * It appears WildStar7125 has already done that for you. Sorry I didn't respond to you sooner. Wikification (talk) 23:38, March 30, 2016 (UTC)

All that Editing
Wow, thanks for all the help with editing those articles. As a result, I am promoting you to Admin :D I still don't understand how to do it, though. Can you show me? Diamonddeath (talk) 18:13, April 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Congrats on getting admin rights man ^^ I really think you deserve it :D 18:48, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

You both got them, so congrats to the both of you, and thanks so much for all your hard work! Diamonddeath (talk) 18:48, April 1, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both very much for the kind words, and congrats to WindStar7125 for becoming one one too, he's really helped out here. But although I really appreciate being made admin, I didn't really want to become one myself. Let's just say that there are some responsibilities to being an admin I probably won't live up to in the future. Of course I will still continue to make edits and contributions here, though I'd prefer to do it as a user than an admin, despite the benefits. Wikification (talk) 03:53, April 2, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, after giving it some more thought, I've decided to remain as an admin for now. I'd probably be contributing to the articles mostly, but I might sort some problems out on here if they happen to surface, and when I get the time. Wikification (talk) 14:12, April 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * I see. Good to hear! If you ever want to become a different user level, just let me know, but I think you're able to do it yourself now if I'm not mistaken. Diamonddeath (talk) 18:50, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

Split Article Titles
I'll post this here because no one seems to be checking the forum:
 * The major reason I want to rename it is because I want the articles to be understandable for new readers/fans. A new reader/fan joining the book after the reboot won't know what "Post-SGW" and "Pre-SGW" mean, regardless if they know there was a reboot. Even if it used the full title of "Post-Super Genesis Wave" and "Pre-Super Genesis Wave", a new reader/fan might not know what those are or what they even mean. So, I thought it would be way easier to understand for new readers/fans if the split articles were given titles that helped to better define what they actually are. Some ideas for titles that are self explanatory and not confusing for "Post-SGW" are "Current Timeline", "New Timeline", and "Current" and for "Pre-SGW" are "Previous Timeline", "Old Timeline", "Original Timeline", and "Pre-Reboot".

So, basically, I want the titles to be user friendly to new fans/readers. As an informative online encyclopedia, we should try to be as easy to understand as possible, especially for something first seen in the article such as an article title. which shouldn't be using acronyms in the first place. I don't want to turn people off with confusion. Diamonddeath (talk) 18:52, April 9, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not against this idea (even although I prefer it as it currently is). However, it's possible that there might be a lot of editing involved if we did change it, as many old continuity pages already have /Pre-SGW in their titles and that might lead to some confusion as to making the template do what you want it to do, Unless WildStar can come up with something. (Edit: Scratch that, after looking at it again, it should be very easy to change the name without any complications. :))


 * Also, as for tag names, I suggest calling the new timeline "Current" or "Current Timeline" and the old timeline "Original" or "Original Timeline". Wikification (talk) 20:22, April 9, 2016 (UTC)

re: image problem
Fixed. Simply insert  in category pages that have that problem. 18:28, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll start doing that to category pages if start looking too funny :). Wikification (talk) 18:33, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Tab timeline articles
Just a thought, wouldn't it make more sense to put the two timeline articles under tabs? TheFatPanda (talk) 22:19, April 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Good thinking. WildStar's already done it. Wikification (talk) 22:26, April 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Lol, "WildStar" ^^ 22:33, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Oops, sorry...WandStar ;). Wikification (talk) 22:47, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Help with categories
Hey, if you haven't noticed I've recently been going around adding some new categories to issue pages: the months they were released. This is for use with the new "In this month..." feature on the front page. If you don't mind, would you help me pick up the slack on these? I've already added the catergories to everything except the Sonic X issues and every Sonic issue after issue 60. It'd be a great help! TheFatPanda (talk) 23:36, April 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * I would, but I don't know the months each comic were released in. I'll see if I can find out and then aid you in this. Wikification (talk) 09:56, April 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh you don't need to do all of them, just evening out the sheer bulk is fine. Thanks, I'll handle any you may have missed ^^ TheFatPanda (talk) 15:39, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Genesis Wave article
Hey, could you split Genesis Wave into two articles please? Thanks! TheFatPanda (talk) 01:22, April 25, 2016 (UTC)

Captain Metal
How do you suppose we should handle Captain Metal's article? TheFatPanda (talk) 03:01, April 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * Probably the same way as the Mecha Sally article. We already have dual pages for Metal Sonic. Edit: Now that we have a dual reality icon, I guess we can use it on the article, even though the character appears more in one continuity then the other. What do you think? Wikification (talk) 03:05, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's hard to say since, by all accounts, his existence doesn't make sense in the context of the Super Genesis Wave. TheFatPanda (talk) 03:35, April 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, how about this: Captain Metal goes with the Post-SGW timeline because that is when that version of the character is introduced. However, perhaps we should delete his history as Metal Sonic V3.3 on the Captain Metal article and instead leave a link on the page leading to Pre-SGW/Metal Sonic article to show his existence as Metal Sonic V3.3 there.
 * As for Mecha Sally (might as well), she goes with the Pre-SGW timeline because she only as a memory or a vision in the Post-SGW timeline. If we label her as duel, it would sort of mean that all memories that the Post-SGW Freedom Fighters have about the Pre-SGW timeline would also be duel. Wikification (talk) 04:29, April 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sure lets go with that =P TheFatPanda (talk) 22:23, April 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Alright then. Wikification (talk) 05:06, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Reaquested page splits
Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I just wanted to direct your attention to these three pages that I believe could do with being split: Thanks again! TheFatPanda (talk) 23:53, April 30, 2016 (UTC)
 * Prime Zone
 * Multiverse
 * Zone


 * I'm not sure about the first two, but I have split the Zone article. Wikification (talk) 10:30, May 1, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! But why can't you do the other two? TheFatPanda (talk) 21:52, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, if I split a very short article, both articles will hardly have any content. Also, in my opinion, I don't see much point in splitting the first two articles in the first place. Perhaps I can link you to some instructions so can split articles yourself, and then you can do what you want with them. Wikification (talk) 22:53, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Right, that would prolly be good, yeah. TheFatPanda (talk) 22:57, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Here you go. Hope it's not to confusing. Just view the Steps. Edit: Actually, I think I'll write some easier instructions, I'll post them when they're ready. Wikification (talk) 23:07, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

To split pages with a infobox template (articles with or  in them), just create a new page with the same name of the page you're trying to split, except with /Pre-SGW written on the end, then move all the Old Continuity information onto your /Pre-SGW page.

However, if the article has a different name in the Old Continuity then in the New Continuity (Like how Snively Robotnik's name was change to Dr. Julian Snively after the Super Genesis Wave), create a new page and name it after the Old Continuity's name, then after moving all the old reality info onto the page, write in the infobox template |custom1= and the name for the New Continuity article. This also has to be done with the New Continuity page, except write |custom2= and the name of the Old Continuity article.

As for articles that don't have a infobox template in them, just copy and paste this at the top of the page, just under the thing:

I think you can still use the "different article names" method with this as well. Wikification (talk) 01:55, May 2, 2016 (UTC)

New Template to make things easier
Hey again! I realised constantly coming to you and pointing out articles that need splitting was becoming rather tiresome. Sooooo...I created a new template to help you along: Split I'll go through and put this on as many unsplit pages as I can find. I hope it helps you out some :) TheFatPanda (talk) 22:07, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay lol. I'll see what I can do with the pages labeled with the template. Not sure I'll be doing them all though. Wikification (talk) 22:42, May 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * I was never expecting you to do them all at once, lol. Just so you have a list of pages you can tackle at your own pace ^^ TheFatPanda (talk) 22:44, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Question about some articles
There are articles for certain concepts that existed in both timelines. Except, in the case of the Pre-SGW timeline, they were only said to exist via brief mentions in the Encyclopedia. How should we approach these? Splitting them up would seem excessive since the Pre-SGW parts would each consist of, more or less, a single sentance. TheFatPanda (talk) 02:46, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Don't known. I think I've asked this same question to someone else here before. I guess we can either keep the info in tabs, split the pages anyway (which I think I was told to do), or make a mention of it in a single article with no tabs. Up to you really. Wikification (talk) 07:53, May 5, 2016 (UTC)

Team Fighters/Team Freedom Dimensions
I am not coming here to fighting - I just come here to confirming something. Team Freedom and Team Fighters are never being in the Post-Super Genesis Wave, therefore they couldn't possessing the category Duel "Reality" characters... I checked that category, which showed the group of people and stuffs that appeared in Pre-SGW, also surviving the Post-SGW. But the problem is, Team Freedom and Team Fighters do not show up in Post-Super Genesis Wave Timeline because of that reason. May you mind explain why you think they (Freedom/Fighters) should have that category in the first place? Thank you, FredCat 01:04, May 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * The reason I change them was because the category was referring to characters, not the teams themselfs. Teams Freedom and Fighters are already referred of being from the Pre-Super Genesis Wave Timeline by being in the "Pre-Super Genesis Wave articles" category. I think we used to have a category for groups and organizations from the Pre-SGW timeline, but it doesn't seem to be here anymore, and don't think they should go in the "Organizations removed by the Super Genesis Wave" category since the entire concept of the teams wasn't fully erased by the Super Genesis Wave (as they both now live on as Sub-teams of the Knothole Freedom Fighters). Wikification (talk) 04:26, May 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * I see... "characters"? That's a big problem for me to get wrapping up. Thanks for responding. FredCat 10:01, May 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm just being specific. You can always undo the edit if you're not satisfied. Wikification (talk) 10:25, May 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * To be truthfully, I was simply confused on the difference. And you cleaned it out. So thank you. :-) FredCat 10:40, May 7, 2016 (UTC)

Heavy and Bomb
I was actually thinking of merging the Heavy and Bomb articles similar to the Orbot and Cubot articles. What do you think? Diamonddeath (talk) 02:05, May 10, 2016 (UTC)


 * You can if you wish. I think it depends on how many adventures Heavy and Bomb have had together. If they've had solo adventures away from one another a lot, then the articles are probably better separated. Wikification (talk) 02:42, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Summaries for Images
Don't forget to add the summary information for the images you uploaded. I'm not sure if you did yet or not, but I remember seeing no summaries for the Deadly Six profile images. Diamonddeath (talk) 02:00, May 13, 2016 (UTC)


 * I haven't forgotten about the summaries and I intend to add them soon. I've actually been preparing to upload quite a few new pictures to the wiki, so I probably add them then. As for the Deadly Six pics, the reason I didn't add summaries to those is because I got those images from concept art and not from an issue, so I didn't know what to write in the summaries. Wikification (talk) 02:15, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

re: X
Most definitely. I don't intend on doing what I did today in terms of cleaning stuff up again. 00:41, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Don't Delete Images if Avoidable
Don't delete images if they can be reused. For example, if you replace the profile image of Scratch, see if you can use the previous image in the article like in the Appearance section. Diamonddeath (talk) 16:38, May 15, 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that. Just thought the new image showed a bit more of the character. I've posted the old one under appearance since it does give a better look of Scratch standing up straight-ish. Wikification (talk) 01:37, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Sally's ears color?
The back of Sally's ears are colored brown instead of red - Wasn't that naturally for Sally's ears to be brown on the outside and tan inside? And if we went for the shaded color, it's dark brown. I am little confused of why that's an error. -FredCat 20:19, May 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Also explain this? -FredCat 20:31, May 25, 2016 (UTC)


 * On Sally's Post-SGW design, the coloration on the back of her ears is red and connects with her red hair (like the red stripe that runs down her back). In StH #281, there's one page that shows the back of Sally's head with the back of her ears colored the usual light brown instead of red. It's a small error in detail, but I just wanted to point it out. Here are designs for Sally new appearance. At the bottom shows a behind view of her finalized design that was carried into the comics. Wikification (talk) 05:58, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Interesting... there were only two mistakes - as I pointed out on my second comment that they let the "brown ears" slid in the comic so far. Thanks for responding. -FredCat 10:40, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Edit Undoing
I am seeing the reason why you reverted the edits on Sally's mother and Rotor's father articles, is because they have different names, right? (Though Sally's mother in New Continuous didn't given the... official full name at that point, as it was mentioned that she could be Nicole Acorn, or she had different name through the different reasons.) FredCat 11:07, June 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * I reverted them because Sally's Mother, Rotor's Mother and Tundra the Walrus are currently considered to be completely new characters made exclusively to the Post-SGW timeline, and not characters from the Pre-SGW timeline that have been reworked to fit the new reality (like King Acorn for example). The new Post-SGW characters simply took the roles of being Sally and Rotor's parents in the new timeline since the Pre-SGW characters can't be used anymore. Their status as parents of particular characters doesn't mean their articles should be linked together though, as some people new to the comics might think that they're reworked versions of each other and not two different characters. Wikification (talk) 11:48, June 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * I see, much like Sonic had his memory that went dual for few issues. The other reasons; different life, different jobs, and their "fates" (death, alive, whatever). All that you detailed out do making sense of them not "being the same" as before. And that included Dulcy's mother (in old continuous, she died, but in new continuous, she is alive) as well.
 * Also, Rotor's young brother was no longer around, right? It could either, he ceased to existing (erased from the life) or he died with his mother, or never being there at all (A.K.A. never born at all). FredCat 12:17, June 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Like many other characters from the old continuity, I think Skeeter has been removed from the comics until further notice. The reality in the Sonic comics wasn't just rebooted, it was sort of reformatted. Only things that seem to have survived are the properties belonging to SEGA (both games and media apparently) and the creations made by those currently working on the comic series. Wikification (talk) 14:09, June 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Indeed, which is the reason why I referred the current timeline as "new continuous", since it had its own storyline. Otherwise, it would'd've be "Another Time, Another Place" timeline but with several changes (Werehog appeared earlier, "Sonic the Fighter" had not happening until after Werehog event, the moon was perfectly cleaned, etc.). And we still waited on Scourge's coming back - I knew that Penders also owned Anti-Sonic, but it was mention that Scourge was entirely his own character... FredCat 14:34, June 21, 2016 (UTC)


 * Just trying to make a clearer distinction in regards to characters between both timelines. As for Scourge, I doubt he'll be returning in the way as we known him. Parts of his personality will probably be given to a new character who would sort of be considered as the "New Scourge". Wikification (talk) 01:40, June 22, 2016 (UTC)


 * Indeed, which is why I came here to make sure I got them right. Shame that Thrash only showed up to taking Knuckles' people away, then vanished once the reboot occupied. FredCat 01:46, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

One Name, Two Links
I am curiously... didn't you see that Sabina Dragon was already linked in Dulcy's Infobox? FredCat 15:46, June 28, 2016 (UTC)


 * Not sure why people do this but from what I've seen here, one written article can have a link to another in it at least once, or much further down the article from where the first link was last shown. Regardless if it's already been linked to in the infobox. Since Sabina is a important character in Dulcy's life and there's no link to her in the article, I thought it look good to put one there. If it still bugs you, just undo it and I won't change it again. Wikification (talk) 20:59, June 28, 2016 (UTC)